All right.

We have Zach and Calvin here from the film walls of Faith.

So, Calvin, why the subject matter?

What interested you in this?

So, actually, Zach actually came up to me.

His brother was puttin on, actually, a film festival.

Walla Walla University in Washington state.

And he's like, man, we need t we need to come up with an idea for this festival.

And so we're just kind of brainstorm and kind of came up on this idea that, man, we should do this, this fil about rock climbing and feature our local are where at least where I'm from.

Yeah.

Zach, what was it like having a film crew following you around to get the film done?

Yeah, it was really fun because it was really a lot just like Calvin and I.

So it was the fun part was like I'd have to then like set up the ropes and stuff and then get Calvin's se and then I'd get ready to climb.

And it was just interesting like trying to make it count cause, you know, you guys spent all this time going out somewhere, and part of the film was, a red point attempt, which is basically just climbing a whole route without falling.

And to be like, okay, we got everyone out here, we got all the parts together.

Like, don't fumble the ba cause you don't want to, like, hike a bunch of friends out here on another weekend when we were getting close to our deadline.

So Calvin mixing adversity and adventure in one film is no easy feat.

What would you say was th biggest challenge of this film?

So I'd say one of the biggest challenges was just honestly for me trying to learn how to do a lot of the climbing stuff and just learning about climbing because this was the first time I'd ever shot anything climbing.

So Zach actually helped me so much with that.

I think another lik really big factor that made it hard was the weather.

it was raining so much all that spring.

So like in the entire film ends up being like overcast, which ends up working well as far as lighting wise.

And then on our like final red point attempt sequence, the skies opened up and it was like a beautiful way to to end the film.

So that was that was great.

Why would you say this is for you?

Zach, why would you say the outdoors is such an important subject to capture documentary style?

I think that, I mean, the outdoors is just.

I mean, it's just amazing, like, it's the setting is on aspiring.

Like, you don't have to make something impressive happen.

Like the impressive feat is just the atmosphere that you're in.

And I think that' what makes the outdoors so cool.

Of a setting.

Because it jus it just puts you into that state already from the beginning.

And, in, in terms of telling the story, it's just different people's experiences of how they appreciate about the part of the outdoors that they're recreating and it's beautiful.

All right.

What's next?

What can we expect from you guys?

So we've been actually brainstorming a couple of things.

One thing we won't, we won't go too, too deep into detail, but there is a little little idea we have going on of doing this cycling film mixed with skiing in the southeast, which you wouldn't hear about skiing here.

I'm intrigued.

It'd be like a bikepacking skiing trip, so I' just going to leave it at that.

You know, it sounds like a lot of suffering me, but.

It'll be a type two fun type.

Adventure.

type-two Fun?

All right.

Zach.

So tell me about the the scene in the movie.

The red point scene.

Like, how many times did you have to go through that route?

What was that process like?

Yeah.

So kind of the motivatio for me to even approach Calvin for making the film.

Was it the style of climbing is, is trad climbing traditional climbing where you're placing your own gear?

And it was it's a it was a new style to me that I was like just starting to develop.

when we did shoot, it was actually my first tim on the route I'm, like, trying to figure out the whole sequence and learn, the route.

And I'm three quarters of the way up.

I'm at the crux of the route, the hardest part, and it's starting to rain.

And I'm just like you know, 80ft off the ground.

Like, the only way I'm getting down is by finishing this route and getting the top.

it was it was very difficult.

But it was it was a big win.

And then on the day we filmed the the Red point ascent, I went up there and just rehearsed, the couple hard sections of the route and was able to piece it all together.

Then on my, on my first, like, full go at the red point, but I definitely was pretty maxed out.

I didn't have much mor in the tank, so it felt so good.

And it's just when you, like put in all that work and effort you kind of investing in your ability.

And then to see that pay out.

It's just it feels so good.

And and it's really like the accumulation of all that work and it was really nice.

The message is clear in the film.

You guys did a phenomenal job of taking adversity and triumphs and combining those things.

I hope you enjoyed the film and can't wait to se what you guys have brewing next.